Circular No 708

Newsletter for alumni of The Abbey School, Mt. St. Benedict, Trinidad and Tobago, W.I.

Caracas, 30 of May 2015 No. 708

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Dear Friends,

On the 24 of May we had the first official meeting in El Tigre, on the Eastern side of Venezuela.

The following Oldboys were invited;

Frank Malaver  (Coordinator of the event)

Ladislao Kertesz

Edgar Moffie

Carlos Dvorak

Roberto Farcheg

Luciano Mellone  Excused

Alfredo Seaforth Excused

Fabio Amici Excused

Simon Farcheg (did not make it due to health)

Adolfo Aumaitre (had problem with transportation)

Inocente Malaver (unknown reason)

Carlos Malaver (was travelling in Margarita)

Elias Farcheg (prior engagement)

The reunion took place at a small resort, see the photo.

We had a great time, and shall get together again in November

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Here I include part II of the CARLOS KORDA / HOEFLE story, right after Don Mitchell´s Ad. Hahaha-  Please comply-

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Mar 18

Dear Alumni,

If you have not recently given Ladislao an update on where you are living, how many children, and how many grandchildren, etc, please do so now at kertesz11@gmail.com  

He always wants school-days photos for the Circular. Any newer ones showing you, preferably before you lost your hair and gained your stomach, would be welcome too :-)

Please copy the photos to Kazim at empowerwithart@gmail.com for the records as well.  He puts them on the website at www.msbaatt.com or www.msbaatt.org

Sincerely,

Don

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Tommy Jardim has departed us.

Glen Mckoy

May 20

Thank you for the email Nigel.  God Bless Our Brother –

Yours Faithfully Glen.

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 Subject: Re: Tommy Jardim

Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 07:19:00 -0400

Thanks for the news, Val.

I never knew Tommy, but of course, I’d heard about him since I was a boy at MSB.

He’s in a much better place now, thank God, and we’ll see him again some day.

May his soul rest in peace.

Nigel

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On May 14, 2015, at 7:58 PM,

Val <av_knaggs@hotmail.com> wrote:

Arthur's good school buddy...from Mt. St. Benedict, Tommy Jardim passed away peacefully on Monday, May 11th.

Another old boy with the Good Lord!

We just came back from the visitation and his wife Joan, and his six daughters were in good spirits as they know he was at peace.

All the best,

Val

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Clarificacion sobre Carlos Korda.

Attila GYURIS <gyuris@yahoo.com>

Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:22:49 PM

Andres:

No sabia los detalles...

Como vi unas fotos en uno de los circulares de Ladislao de una reunion en un restaurante en Caracas donde estaban Urbano Von Fedak, y Ladislao Kertesz y tambien vi a Gabriel Hoefle, entre otros mas etc, yo pense que fue una de las reuniones que tuvieron donde tu tambien eabas. Bueno, no importa.

Entonces, tal vez Ladislao Kertesz. nos puede ayudar con esto, preguntandole a Gabriel Hoefle para clarificar lo del apellido Korda vs Hoefle y lo de Carlos Korda, hijo del viejo Francisco Korda. (?)

(El papa de Carlos Korda, se llamaba Francisco Korda (R.I.P.), uno de los dueños de Korda Modas.)

En fin... re-leyenedo tu email; me doy cuenta de que hay una confusión con lo de Carlos Dvorak y los Korda (Hoefle) y entre Korda Modas y Casa Dvorak.

Las tiendas de ropa Korda Modas hay una en el centro, habia una Sabana Grande, habia una en la Francisco de Miranda (creo) y algunas en el interior, pero ninguna en Chacao.  Nunca hubo un Korda Modas en Chacao.....Lo que habia en Chacao era un negocio de antiguedades llamado CASA DVORAK (por la cual yo estaba preguntando)... que no tenia nada que ver con Korda Modas.

Es mas, estoy casi seguro que las dos familias: los Hoefle (Korda) y los Dvorak son estan relacionadas ni se conocen personalmente.

Los Hoefle (Korda) son de descendencia Hungara y los Dvorak son de descendencia Checa. En el Mount yo estaba amigos con Guillermo Dvorak (el del medio) y Miguel Dvorak (el menor de los 3 hermanos).. . En Venezuela yo estaba de amigos con la familia Hoefle. Asi que los conocia a todos.

El mayor, Carlos Dvorak, al que llamabamos "Popo" por la cara de payaso, (te acuerdas?)  era uno de los sub-jefes de tropa en los Scouts, siempre estaba enfrente al lado de Fr. Cuthbert. . Creo que tenia como unos 20 años y estaba en el Mount. (?)

Attila

I did not know the details ...

As I saw some pictures in one of the circular of Ladislao of a meeting at a restaurant in Caracas where Von Urban Fedak was, and Ladislao Kertesz and also saw Gabriel Hoefle, among other more etc, I thought it was at one of the meetings where you were too.  Well never mind.

Then perhaps Ladislao Kertesz you can help us with this, asking Gabriel Hoefle to clarify what the name Hoefle vs Korda and Carlos Korda, son of the old Francis Korda. (?)

Anyway ... re-reading your email; I realize that there is a confusion with Carlos Dvorak and Korda (Hoefle) and between Korda Home Fashions and Dvorak.

There was one clothing store Korda Modas in the center.  There was a Sabana Grande, and there was one in the Francisco de Miranda (I think) and some inside, but none in Chacao. There was never a Korda Modas in Chacao ..... what was in Chacao was an antique store called CASA DVORAK (why I was asking) ... he had nothing to do with Fashion Korda.

What's more, I am almost certain that the two families: Hoefle (Korda) and Dvorak are related or know each other personally.

The Hoefles (Kordas) are of Hungarian descent and Dvoraks are of Czech descent.  At the Mount I was friends with Guillermo Dvorak (middle) and Miguell Dvorak (the youngest of the three brothers) ... In Venezuela I was friends with the family Hoefle.  So I knew them all.

The eldest, Carlos Dvorak, who we called "Popo", or clown's face, (remember?) was one of the sub-commanders of troops in the Scouts, he was always in front next to Fr. Cuthbert. . I think I was like about 20 years and was at the Mount. (?)

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Andres Larsen <andres_larsen@yahoo.com> wrote:

Los únicos que cenamos pizza el 22-11-2007 en el Mamma Nostra de Altamira fuimos Laszlo, Brother Robert Dorset O.S.B.(y no Brother Felix como yo decía), Father Rupert O.S.B., Myron y su esposa Julie, y el suscrito. Las dos veces que he asistido en los últimos dos años, Gabriel Hoefle nunca ha aparecido.

The only people who ate pizza on 22-11-2007 in Altamira Mamma Nostra were Laszlo, Brother Robert Dorset OSB (not Brother Felix as I said), Father Rupert OSB, Myron and his wife Julie, and myself.  Both times I have attended in the past two years, Gabriel Hoefle has never appeared

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Attila GYURIS <gyuris@yahoo.com> wrote:

Bueno, Yo se algo de lo de Korda Modas. Los dueños de las tiendas Korda Modas eran tres hermanos.

Cuando todavia era joven y guapo (en los 70's) yo estuve de novios con la hija (Lucy Hoefle, quien ahora vive en Houston TX con su esposo venezolano) de uno de los tres hermanos propietarios de los Korda Modas de la tienda de el Silencio.

El apellido real de de ellos no es Korda sino Hoefle. Son todos de descendencia judia Hungara.   Usaban el nombre de Korda como un pesudonimo.

Carlos " Korda" no era hijo consaguineo de ellos, segun me acuerdo. No entiendo muy bien como le llego eso de "Korda" como apellido. Tal vez si le preguntas a Gabriel Hoefle alli en Caracas. Tu recién estuviste reunido con ellos en el restaurante italiano, no?

Well, I know something of Fashion Korda . The shop owners were Korda Modas three brothers.

When I was still young and handsome in the 70s) I was dating the daughter (Lucy Hoefle, who now lives in Houston TX with her Venezuelan husband) of one of the three brothers owners of Korda Fashion store located in El Silencio.

The actual name of them is not Korda but Hoefle . They are all of Hungarian Jewish descent.  Korda used the name as a pseudonym.

Carlos "Korda " was not their son, according to what I remember.  I do not quite understand this as I knew this one by the name "Korda”.  Maybe you can ask Gabriel Hoefle there in Caracas.  You recently were together with them at the Italian restaurant, right?

Attila Gyuris

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Andres Larsen <andres_larsen@yahoo.com> wrote:

Todo lo que tu cuentas sobre Carlos Korda es correcto. acuérdate que le preguntamos hace un par de años a Carlos Dvorak sobre Korda Modas en Chacao y nos dijo que ya no existía. Me parece que la tienda grande de Korda Modas en El Silencio aún existe.

De todas maneras Carlos Korda y Carlos Dvorak (ambos de descendencia checa) son familia, me parece que son primo hermanos los dos.

Desde que Carlos Dvorak esta trabajando de tesorero con uno de los Cantore en Anaco ya ni le da tiempo para escribir como lo hacía antes cuando estaba al frente de Mirko Internacional en Maiquetia.

Everything you wrote about Carlos Korda is correct. Remember we asked a couple of years ago Carlos Dvorak about Korda Modas in Chacao and he said that it was no more.  I think the largest store Korda Modas in El Silencio still exists.

Anyway, Carlos Korda and Carlos Dvorak (both of Czech descent) are family, I think they are cousins, sons of two brothers.

Since then Carlos Dvorak is working as treasurer with one of the Cantores in Anaco and has no time to write as he did before when he was at the head of Mirko Maiquetia International .

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Attila GYURIS <gyuris@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Jan:

Here is a correction and some name additions to this photo (see attached). Please could you incorporate it with your Photoshop magic? I am sending you two copies of the same Prep A 1964-1965 photo. This is a photo of which I have the original.

One is captioned, the other one is the original scan without the captions but better resolution. Maybe you can use the higher resolution picture and put the names in it without losing any of the resolution?

Imagine: I just talked personally with Rommel Rosero (since 1978!).  He called me out of the blue on my cell phone all the way from Venezuela!  We chatted and reminisced for about half an hour.  He said he would be sending some pictures of the family and kids. I will forward them when I get them.

Anyway, he confirmed that #22 is indeed Carlos KORDA (not Carlos Hoefle)

Here are the corrections and additions:

# 22 - change name from Carlos Hoefle to Carlos Korda.

# 17 - add name: Michael Torry (brother to Kevin)

# 18 - add name: Kevin Torry (brother to Michael)

(personal note: they look so different that I am pretty sure they must be "stepbrothers")

# 2 - add name: Gary Romeo  (R.I.P.)

We will keep on slowly correcting until we get all the correct and full names for everybody yet!

Thanks,

Attila Gyurís

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RE: Carlos Hoefle is the second one from the right in the first sitting row

From:  Alfredo Montiel Bezara <amontielb@megaval.com>

Attila,

Que tal ! La verdad que no tengo memoria, por supuesto tu eres inconfundible !

Quizás Oscar .... pero seguro que Gonzalo y Fulvio no tienen ni idea, Raúl sabrá ?

Oscar esta de viaje en Panamá por estos días y no creo que por el BB pueda tener la nitidez de la fotografía.

How are you! The truth is that I do not remember.  Of course, you are unmistakable!

Maybe Oscar . . . but surely Gonzalo and Fulvio have no idea?  Raul may know?

Oscar is traveling in Panama these days and does not think the BB may have the sharpness of the picture.

Un abrazo,

Alfredo.

MSB 1972

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Photos:

Bandit p27 The Early Times

15LK8802LKE, Reunion el Tigre 2015 May

62UN0001CLASS66, Carlos Hoefle maybe??

63UN0005CLASS66, UNKNOWNS