Circular No 707

Newsletter for alumni of The Abbey School, Mt. St. Benedict, Trinidad and Tobago, W.I.

Caracas, 23 of May 2015 No. 707

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Dear Friends,

I would like to ask Kristof Marothy for a rescan of all the photos that he sent.

The photos received are interesting but the quality is not suitable for reproduction by the Circular.

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From: Vijaya3@aol.com Vijaya3@aol.com

Subject: Re: Update on Carlos Hofle

Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 7:32 PM

Hello Andres

I sincerely appreciate your continuing efforts to determine the whereabouts of Carlos. Still no certainty...I believe the authorities at ERAU may have an idea of his location. I do however wish to thank you for your efforts.

Let’s stay in touch.

With kindest regards

Winston Mahabir  

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2009/10/24 10:02:06 P.M. South Africa Standard Ti,

andres_larsen@yahoo.com writes:

Hello Winston,

Below is an update in Spanish from Attila Gyuris on Carlos Hofle who is definitely not Carlos Korda.

It appears that Carlos Hofle attended MSB in the late 1950's whereas Carlos Korda attended MSB with us in the late 1960's.

Best regards,

Andrés Larsen

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From: Attila GYURIS gyuris@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: Lazlo ubicó finalmente en su corototeca a Carlos Hofle

Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 5:18 AM

Lo que pasa es que hay (o habian en esa epoca) TRES tiendas Korda Modas, con TRES dueños socios/familiares. El Korda Modas del Centro era del viejo Americo Hofle y el Korda Modas de Sabana Grande era del viejo Francisco Korda (y quien está conmigo en la foto de mi primer día en el Mount).

Esto lo sé porque yo estuve saliendo de novios, a principios de los 70,  por un tiempo, con la hija, (Lucy) del dueño del Korda Modas del Centro, el Sr. Americo Hofle. El tenia un primo quien se llamaba Francisco Korda, dueño del Korda Modas de Sab Gde, y quien era el padre del Carlos Korda, nuestro compañero en MSB a mediados de los 60, y que aparece en la foto de Prep A conmigo.

Así que no confundamos el Carlos Hofle, (quien estuvo en MSB a finales de los 50 y ya murio) y quien era el hermano mayor de Gabor Hofle,..... con su primo mas joven, Carlos Korda, quien estuvo con nosotros durante la mitad de los 60. Este último no creo que se haya muerto (?).

Keke, podrias verificar esto?

gracias,

Attila Gyuris

1964-1969

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From: laszlo kertesz kertesz11@yahoo.com

Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 4:01 PM

El hermano de Gabriel, hijo de Korda Modas de Sabana Grande es Carlos Hoefle (Korda)

Ladislao

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From: Andres Larsen andres_larsen@yahoo.com

Sent: Sat, October 17, 2009 11:36:48 AM

Hola Laszlo,

¿Tienes alguna idea de quien fue Carlos Hofle?

Cordial saludo

Andrés Larsen

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From: Attila GYURIS gyuris@yahoo.com

Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 6:39 PM

Lo dudo,

Creo que los 3 hermanos Dvorak llegaron al Mount despues de que Carlos Hoefle (o Korda) se fue. Pero vale la pena preguntar... uno nunca sabe.

Pero, viendo algunas fotos, el que debe sabe seguro es a Gabriel Hoefle y/o Pablo Kecskemeti, que si estaban allí cuando él y yo empezamos en el Mount.

Carlos es el niño sentado en la baranda, jugando con una cuerda. Yo soy el otro niño parado junto a mi papa. El otro viejo es el papa de Carlos, el Sr. Francisco Korda.

No tengo el email de Gabriel Hofle, pero seguro que tu o Ladislao lo tienen. Hazle forward.

Yo le voy a hacer forward a Keké, a ver que pasa.

A.

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From: Andres Larsen andres_larsen@yahoo.com

Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 2:25 PM

El que puede saber sobre Carlos Hofle es Carlos Dvorak

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From: Attila GYURIS gyuris@yahoo.com

Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 6:18 PM

Alguien de ustedes puede nos ayudar con esto?  Saben que paso con el Carlos Hoefle o Carlos Korda ("el Policia'), el de la foto? Esta muerto o vivo?

Oscar, tal vez preguntando a Fulvio.

Alfredo, puedes preguntar a Gonzalo?

Raul, tu sabes algo?

y tu Rommel?

Gracias a todos, 

Attila  Gyuris

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From: Andres Larsen andres_larsen@yahoo.com

Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 12:16 PM

Hello all,

Carlos Hoefle (known at MSB as Carlos Korda) is the second one from the right in the first sitting row

I understand that Carlos Hoefle passed away from cancer shortly after we all left MSB

It might be a good idea to ask the two Montiel brothers, the two Cantore brothers, or Raul Leoni Jr. Maybe even "Nazi" (who is also in this enclosed/attached snapshot) might know

Regards,

(A. Larsen)

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From: Attila GYURIS gyuris@yahoo.com

Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 2:48 PM

Frankly, I have no idea about the pilot thing, but I know a few Hoefles in Venezuela. The Hoefle-Korda family is quite large. Frank Hofle and Frank Korda were cousins. They are (or were?) the owners of the "Korda Modas" chain of clothing stores in Caracas. 

What school years time-frame are we talking about?. 

Apparently there was student: Carlos Hoefle at MSB, in the late fifties to early sixties, he is the one who has died. I did not know him, as he was there before my time.

The younger one that I knew, was Carlos Korda (not Hoefle, I think), He was at MSB for two years only (1964 to 1966). He started with me in Prep A then went on to Form I. We used to call him  "El Policia" because he loved to play "cops and robbers"  in the yard during recess.

Then, after the Form I school year ended in June 1966 , he disappeared. Rumour had it that, after MSB, he went to a school in Puerto Rico.

His photo is in the attached  Prep A class photo: He is # 2 from the right, sitting in long pants, with glass case in pocket and a smile.

But I don't think he died.

And if anybody, he might be the one who went to pilot school in FL., but I don't know this for a fact. I will try to find out.

Attila Gyuris

MSB 1964-1969

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From:  Attila GYURIS <gyuris@yahoo.com> 

Hello, Winston:

I agree. It has to be the older Carlos Hoefle.

Do you know when and under what cirmcumstances he died?

Attila Gyuris

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From: Vijaya3@aol.com

Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 12:36 PM

Hello, Attila:

Your analysis would be correct. Carlos Hoefle would have been approx.24 yrs old. We may not be talking about the same chap. I do however deeply appreciate your responses and in particular your concern about your former classmates.

Continue to fly safely....and stay in God's graces.

With kindest regards

Winston Mahabir

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2009/10/16 09:01:42 P.M. South Africa Standard Ti,

gyuris@yahoo.com writes:

Dear Ambassador Winston:

Many Greetings and I hope this email finds you well in Pretoria.

Thanks for your reply:

I just realized that in the earlier email I forgot to point him out in the Prep A class photo.

Carlos Korda is the boy sitting in the first row, second from the right side of the picture, in long pants, with a glass case in his front shirt pocket, sitting next to a blond curly haired kid on his right.  

(By the way, I am sitting in the first row also, 4th from the left side of the picture, also sitting next to a blond kid to my left)

Which Carlos are we talking about?

If we are talking about the same one who attended MSB with me and who is in the class picture, there is a time-frame problem with him graduating from Embry Riddle Engineering and or Flight School. (I am very familiar with Embry Riddle University as I am also an active commercial pilot and have an engineering degree).

I would think, he would have been far too young to be able to do it. Let's see, in 1964 he was about 10-11, so he would have graduated flight school and with an engineering degree at age 15-16 years of age?. Not likely.

So that leaves the other Carlos. the older one. 

Suggestion: There are several older MSB class pictures in the website: http://abbeyschool2001circulars.blogspot.com/ 

 It would take a while, but you could search through the circular photos and perhaps recognize him.

 I heard he died from an illness (either heart attack or cancer, I am not sure)

Does that coincide with what you know?

Attila Gyuris

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From: Vijaya3@aol.com

Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 11:06 AM

Hello Attila:

Very many thanks for your response .... Deeply grateful.

I attended Embry Riddle Aeronautical Institute in Daytona Florida for my first engineering degree. Your comments indicated that Carlos was a student at Mt. SB. I met Carlos at Embry Riddle .... we played soccer, attended Flight School and studied Aeronautical Engineering. We graduated BS'c within a year of each other 68/69. The statistical chances of another Carlos at MSB and from Venezuela/Trinidad would be remote. I could not identify him from your class photo but I am minded that we have lost a beautiful, witty and good friend. Deeply saddened to hear. I am now Trinidad and Tobago's Ambassador to South Africa .... writing from Pretoria South Africa.

With best wishes to you and all of your colleagues from MSB.

Kindest regards

Winston Mahabir

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From: Vijaya3@aol.com

Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 5:39 PM

Hello, Andres:

You would not know me but I believe your friend as you mentioned .... Carlos Hoefle .... may also have been a dear friend of mine .....Did he attend flight school in Florida .... do you have a photograph ....

With thanks and kind regards

Winston Mahabir

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His Excellency Dr. Winston Mahabir to take up appointment as High Commissioner to South Africa.  Dr. Mahabir is scheduled to arrive in Pretoria by the end of May 2008.  His Excellency has prior diplomatic experience having last served as Chief of Staff for the United Nations Mission in East Timor.  He also held positions in Bosnia, Herzegovina, Slovakia and Sudan and has provided political analysis on issues involving the greater Middle East.  His Excellency has authored several papers on economics and international relations and has maintained strong academic and scholarly connections throughout his career, lecturing in several universities whilst serving in the United Nations Missions where he was assigned.

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Photos:

Bandit p26 The Early Times

12DG0264DGOGRP, Donald Goddard with Salvador Coscarart, Fr. Harold and UNKNOWN

15GT1448GTO Giacomo Tomaselli in London

06AL0007ALAGRP, Andres Larsen visiting the Benedictines in Guigue